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Carnegie Swim Centre redevelopment concept design consultation

We are inviting community feedback on a proposed concept design for Carnegie Swim Centre.

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We’re currently halfway through the concept design phase. 

The concept design establishes the floor plan for the centre — which is within the footprint of the current site — and is where we explore options for the size of key spaces, movement through the site, scale and form of buildings and general layout.

At this stage, landscaping is indicative — a concept only.

Once endorsed by Council, the process will move to the schematic design phase, where the selected concept is further refined and finalised through materials, colours, landscaping and finishes.

The concept plans for Carnegie Swim Centre includes:

  • an outdoor 50 metre, eight lanepool
  • an outdoor diving pool
  • an indoor warm water program pool and 25 metre learn-to-swim pool
  • a concourse spa
  • indoor sauna, steam room and accessible changerooms
  • indoor program rooms
  • consultancy rooms
  • a café
  • outdoor children’s splash pad/water play
  • lawn areas and open spaces (including retention of the eastern mound)
  • barbeques and shaded seating
  • the retention of character and local charm.

Council has also engaged traffic engineers to conduct a study on traffic and parking impacts on the surrounding area. This report will be available to view here on the Have Your Say page.

The redevelopment of Carnegie Swim Centre is an important project that will boost the local economy and provide many jobs. A redeveloped Centre will also improve the general experience for users, support opportunities to enhance community feel and connectedness, and will ensure that the Centre remains environmentally sustainable. We are planning now so that Carnegie Swim Centre can meet the needs of the growing community for years to come.

The project is estimated to be completed by early 2023.

Getting involved

What is Council consulting the community on?

The consultation is now open until 12 August 2020. We are undertaking community consultation on the proposed concept design for the redevelopment.

How can you have your say?

To ensure the planning and design for this project is the best it can be, we’d like to hear from you. Visit our Have Your Say page where you can find out more and see the proposed architectural concept design.

After the consultation closes, a Council report will be published. For further information email projects@gleneira.vic.gov.au or call 9524 3333.

About the project

Why is Council redeveloping the Carnegie Swim Centre?

Built in 1966, the buildings and pools are now at the end of their serviceable life and need to be replaced. The filtration systems are inefficient and the buildings cannot be easily modified to meet universal access standards.

Although the centre remains very safe to use with regular ongoing maintenance, the centre needs a complete redevelopment to ensure it meets contemporary standards and is capable of servicing our growing community in the future.

Is the existing centre being completely demolished or refurbished?

The current concept design will require the existing centre to be completely demolished. The new centre will remain within the footprint of the existing site. In keeping with the overarching Lord Reserve and Koornang Park Masterplan, the proposed design will create more useable space and improved landscape areas.

What was the preferred option for the redevelopment of the Carnegie Swim Centre from the recent community consultation?

From October 2019 to January 2020, 1,364 people voted, selecting one of three proposed options. Option B, a “redeveloped swim centre with indoor and outdoor pools and an outdoor diving pool” was the community’s preferred option with 73.5% of the total vote. At the Ordinary Council Meeting on the 25 February 2020, Council endorsed Option B.

What is the size and scale of the proposed redevelopment?

The latest community consultation identified that it is important to the community that the new centre remains within the footprint, size and structure of the existing pool and does not become a larger centre equivalent to the size and scale of Glen Eira Sports and Aquatic Centre (GESAC). The proposed redeveloped swim centre will sit on the existing building footprint, within the existing fence lines.

What will the proposed redevelopment include?

The proposed design for the redevelopment will contain the following:

  • Outdoor 50m x 8m lane pool
  • Outdoor dive pool
  • Indoor warm water program pool and 25m learn-to-swim pool
  • Concourse spa
  • Indoor sauna, steam room and accessible change rooms
  • Indoor program rooms
  • Consultancy rooms
  • Café
  • Outdoor children’s splash pad/water play
  • Lawn areas and open spaces (including retention of the ‘eastern mound’)
  • Barbeque and shaded seating
  • Retention of character and local charm.

Will the redevelopment be designed to incorporate best practices for Environmentally Sustainable Design?

We have engaged a Environmentally Sustainable Design consultant to ensure we go above and beyond the minimum standards required. We have a Community Plan commitment that five percent of the project costs will be spent on Environmentally Sustainable Design initiatives. Council is currently investigating a facility which will encompass an all-electric solution which will run completely from renewable energy, incorporating significant onsite solar PV. The new facility will also be designed for climate resilience, low energy operation and water resilience — incorporating significant rainwater harvesting tanks.

The ‘earth berm’ as proposed in the current concept design will insulate the building, enabling the centre to be much more efficient, providing additional open space for native vegetation to be planted, as well assisting to achieve the low-profile form of the building which is set into the park landscape.

Will the redevelopment be designed to incorporate best practices for Disability Discrimination Act standards?

We will go above Disability Discrimination Act standards to enhance the user experience and ensure that every centre staff member has the skills to assist customers who have additional needs. The current design incorporates a changing places facility and universal access to all aspects of the facility.

What added value will the redevelopment bring to the community?

Our community is growing, and the redevelopment will broaden the facilities at Carnegie Swim Centre to cater for the additional all year-round demand for aquatic and leisure facilities by providing:

  • More opportunities to improve physical and mental wellbeing, specifically through learn-to-swim and other programs.
  • Improved user experience of the facilities.
  • Enhanced community feel and connectedness while still enjoying the essential elements which contribute to the current swim centre’s character.
  • A more sustainable facility with improved accessibility.

The centre is designed to complement GESAC and also to ease the pressure on GESACs learn to swim and warm water programming as demand has increased significantly due to growth in the municipality.

Is there a Community Reference Group for this project?

Council appointed a Community Reference Group, consisting of 12 local representatives to help guide the project through planning, design and implementation of the Masterplan projects including the Carnegie Swim Centre Redevelopment. To date, the Community Reference Group has met six times throughout the year and provided local advice and recommendations to Council.

Who is designing the new centre?

Council appointed CO-OP Studio to design the redevelopment. CO-OP Studio has proven experience in designing leisure and aquatic centres, multi sports complex and pavilions including Stromlo Leisure Centre, Sunbury Aquatic Centre, La Trobe Sports Park, Peter Mathieson Pavilion and HE Parker Multi Sports Complex. For more information on CO-OP Studio, please visit www.co-opstudio.com.au.

How much will the project cost?

The final cost is unclear at this stage however, Council is expecting the redevelopment to be approximately $51 million.

Will the redevelopment accommodate year-round use?

The redevelopment will see Carnegie Swim Centre become an all-year-round aquatic and leisure facility, with a range of services for a broader section of the community, including proposed indoor pools, spas, saunas and fitness rooms to accommodate the winter months. At this stage, it is likely the outdoor 50m pool, dive pool and splash pad will available seasonally. This will allow the centre to provide programs such as learn-to-swim, and targeted programs to meet specific community health needs, delivering a range of physical and mental health benefits for decades to come.

Will Council require a Town Planning Permit for this development?

The development will require a Town Planning Permit and the Town Planning Permit application will be lodged once the designs have been further developed. Glen Eira’s standard Town Planning process for applying and obtaining a Town Planning Permit will be followed for this project.

How will Council address the Special Building Overlay requirements?

The consultant team engaged by Council is working with Melbourne Water to address the requirements of the Special Building Overlay and will continue to do so in future design stages. More information will be provided on these requirements and how they have been incorporated into the design in future consultation.

Proposed concept design

What is a concept design and what follows this phase?

The concept design phase establishes the ‘floor plan’ for the centre and is where we explore options for the size of key spaces, movement through the site, scale and form of buildings, and general layout. At this stage, landscaping is indicative – a concept only. We’re currently halfway through the concept design phase. Feedback from community consultation will inform the final concept design. Once endorsed by Council, the process will move to the schematic design phase, where the selected concept is further refined and finalised through materials, colours, landscaping and finishes.

Key tasks Program dates
Concept design development February – August 2020
Community consultation July – August 2020
Schematic design development September – October 2020
Detailed design development November – January 2020
Tender documentation and head contractor procurement January 2021 – April 2021
Construction, including early works March 2021 – Late 2022
Centre opens Early 2023

How will the Carnegie Swim Centre retain its heritage elements in the redevelopment?

From previous consultation, we heard that people love the community vibe and nostalgic feel of the centre and want this to be retained. CO-OP Studio, the architects, were selected through a competitive process for a number of reasons, one in particular is their experience celebrating heritage in community projects. CO-OP Studio is working hard to ensure nostalgic references will be spread throughout the design, from the site arrangement to the form, human scale and relationship with the landscape, right down to the details people interact with.

The concept design has incorporated many of the elements of the existing centre including:

  • Essential elements of the existing building including the use of red brick externally
  • Matching the low impact form of the existing building.
  • Post war style signage.
  • Retaining ‘the eastern hill’.
  • Celebrating the original name of the pool being “Memorial Swimming Pool”.
  • Retaining a similar layout of outdoor pools
  • Remains within the footprint, size and structure as the existing pool.
  • Sourcing the original pool architectural drawings and replicating form and features in a way which meets today’s needs.

Will the proposed 50m outdoor pool be the same size as the existing 50m outdoor pool?

The outdoor pool will essentially be the same size and in the same location as the existing outdoor pool, noting some minor tweaks may be needed to comply with current regulations including compliant step and ramp access into and out of the pool.

Is the proposed dive pool the same size as the existing dive pool?

The current centre has two 1m dive boards and two 3m dive boards. The proposed dive pool is a similar size to the existing dive pool however there is only one 1m dive board and one 3m dive board.

While this may seem like a reduction in the number of people who can dive per hour, it is a requirement of Lifesaving Victoria’s regulations that only one person is in the dive pool at a time, and this person must exit the pool before the next person dives. The only way to increase the number of people who can dive per hour within the regulations would be to increase the number of separate diving pools – not the number of dive boards.

What activities will be available for the waterplay area?

The waterplay area will offer a mix of water-based activities, water toys, and themed zones for children and families. The type of activities and toys in this area hasn’t been decided at this stage in the process.

Will there be family change room facilities?

Yes.

Will the proposed design incorporate entrances from both parks and is there potential for indoor/outdoor entrances?

The new centre will establish connections with the reserves broadly, with the main entrance to the centre off the existing car park.

Will the existing hill be retained in the proposed redevelopment?

The existing hill has been retained in the proposed concept design.

What landscaping will be incorporated into the redevelopment? Will existing trees be retained?

The proposed redevelopment has been designed to upgrade the landscaping with planting of additional trees and additional landscape features such as planters. The concept design aims to retain existing trees where possible however, some may be pruned or removed to facilitate better open space for the swim centre’s users. Further detail about landscaping will be developed as part of the next stage in the process – schematic design.

What consideration has been given to the noise generated by the plant room for nearby neighbours?

Earth mounds have been proposed in the concept design, in and around the plant room. The earth will act as acoustic insulation and prevent excessive noise for nearby neighbours.

In the current concept design, will the loading dock and plant room be accessed directly from Lyons Street?

No. The loading dock and plant room will be accessed directly from the reconfigured carpark.

Can the proposed redevelopment incorporate a green roof with landscaping or solar panels for sustainability purposes?

In line with our commitment to Environmentally Sustainable Design, we are exploring opportunities to incorporate sustainable features with the aim to power the entre entirely from renewable energy. Further work is being undertaken to understand what is possible for this centre.

Will the café be open to the public or exclusively for pool users only?

The café will be open to anyone who would like to come into the centre including pool users or people who just want to purchase something from the café. We are also exploring the possibility of a portable coffee pod that can be wheeled out in front of the café at peak times, making it easier for park users or visitors to purchase a coffee and/or snack.

Will more barbeques be made available?

The number of barbeques hasn’t been decided at this stage in the process.

When will works start and when will they be completed?

Early construction work is anticipated to commence in March 2021, these early works will not impact the operating hours of the pool. The new centre is expected to be open by early 2023.

Traffic and parking

What did the recent parking and traffic analysis find?

Council appointed traffic consultants One Mile Grid to collect current traffic and parking data in the local area, and to undertake extensive modelling to predict future changes to local traffic and parking as a result of the new centre. The analysis found future traffic volumes, parking supply and intersection performance will be well within the relevant guidelines and will not create excessive issues. The work of One Mile Grid was peer-reviewed by another traffic consultancy, Traffix, to ensure the methodology and findings were robust and that the community could have confidence in the findings.

Council has also worked closely with the Community Reference Group to understand the day-to-day experience of local residents. The group has identified a number of opportunities to improve local traffic and parking and each suggestion is being considered as part of a local traffic study, by Council’s traffic engineering team.

When did the traffic data collection take place and why were those specific days selected?

Careful consideration was given to when and how traffic and parking data was collected to ensure the best possible data collection was obtained within the everyday limitations of the local area including weather, and local events. The data collection was undertaken during the winter in 2019 and early summer 2019 and late summer 2020. Days and periods of higher demand were selected to obtain an accurate understanding of the current traffic and parking patterns.

Will there be more or less parking once the centre is open?

There will be more parking available in the entire precinct than is currently available now.
The existing number of parking spaces in the Carnegie Swim Centre will be retained in a reconfigured carpark and the Lord Reserve Koornang Park Masterplan proposes additional parking bays in Munro Avenue and Lyons Street. The final Lord Reserve Koornang Park Masterplan is available for the community to review.

Will the redeveloped centre have sufficient parking to accommodate the forecast peak demand for parking?

Yes. The detailed parking projections set out in the report shows that the carpark and nearby precinct parking provides sufficient parking for visitors to the swim centre and other users of the Lord Reserve and Koornang Park precinct in summer and winter.

What public transport will be available to access the centre?

The Traffic Impact Assessment report concludes that the site has excellent public transport access including Glen Huntly and Carnegie train stations, the No.67 tram and a number of bus routes.

Has Council made a decision about closing Moira Avenue yet?

Council has not made a decision about closing Moira Avenue yet and an additional community consultation, which is required as part of legislation, will be conducted in relation to the proposed road closure at a separate time.

Has COVID-19 impacted the project?

To date, the current environment has not had any significant impact on the project progressing. We have appointed a specialist to review our existing business case through a COVID-19 lens to help provide insights into the impact COVID-19 will have on the centre. In the meantime, Council is continuing to work through the design phase with the design team and has regular virtual meetings with the Community Reference Group to help progress and guide the project. Additionally, the traffic and parking analysis concluded on 5 March 2020, therefore has not delayed or affected the results.

Where can I swim when the centre closes?

While the centre is closed for redevelopment, GESAC will be available.